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      CommentAuthorAndrew
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 1
    The license plate holder on my bike is about twice as tall as a US/Illinois license plate. I want to put a sticker beneath the plate. I have about a 6" wide x 4" tall area to work with.

    I want something with an illustration of a skull and crossbones, except maybe the crossbones are cellphones? and some text that says something like "Get off your damn phone."

    If you've seen something like this at Zazzle, Etsy, Cafepress, or wherever, let me know. If you make one, I'll buy it, and then you can use my idea to make millions. Millions!
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 2
    I'll hook you up.
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 3
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 4
    if you want a more iconic /cartoonish skull, I CAN SUPPLY.
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 5
    RIDE!
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      CommentAuthorvoz
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 6
    so good! i would love to stencil that all over this fucking town
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      CommentAuthorhessie
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 7
    I would totally stick that on my brand new car.
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      CommentAuthorGeorge
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 8
    Two thumbs up.

    But not while driving.
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      CommentAuthorAndrew
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 9
    Love the one on the right. Could it be cartoonier?
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 13th 2010
     # 10
    Hello Remix.



    SVG
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    I AM GAME BUT HAVE NO COMFORTABLE ACCESS TO A SCANNER NOW

    PLZ DONT WRITE ME OFF YET

    LOL CAPS
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      CommentAuthorstilton
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 12
    This is going well.

    *applause*
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 13
    I don't have a tablet or scanner hooked up so I am stuck in bezier curve land.



    EPS
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 14
    The black skull doesn't work for me, but the cartoony re-do nicely solves the problem of the too-detailed teeth. You've still got a similar problem with the slightly too-thin white stroke that sets off the phone in front against the phone in the back. Also add the bone joint extension that the client requested, and I think you're ready to invoice and make millions.
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 15
    yeah I admittedly didn't put a lot of quality control into this one. That white stroke needs to be naturalized.
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 16
    After this rev, it officially becomes a real task and I will probably redo it from scratch to look cooler. This one includes an ANGRY version. Actually maybe just perturbed.



    EPS
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      CommentAuthorbatterpunts
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010 edited
     # 17
    skull

    Pedant skull says "no!"

    Or maybe he says "hang on I gotta take this"

    Scot needs to get to a scanner quick.
    Or a proper drawing tablet.
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 18
    I like clean lines as much as dirty ones, though! NO PREFERENCE.
  2.  # 19
    dirty dirty line
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010 edited
     # 20
    Did the client say he'd pay extra for a nice scroll or shall we just add "Get off your damn phone" in Comic Sans?
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010 edited
     # 21
    I was hoping more for a big blocky font that was poorly stretched in photoshop like every non-death-metal tshirt I owned in the 90s.
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 22
    MisterBass Full, sloppyright 1999 William Clifford
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 23
    I actually think it should just say "Get Off"
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 24
    True.
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 25
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 26
    LOOK HOW CLEAN!!!
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 27
    Posted By: AndrewI have about a 6" wide x 4" tall area to work with




    Typeface: Interstate Black Condensed
    SVG
    _____________________

    Make the skull a bit taller and render the caption in four rather than three lines?
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 28
    Posted By: scotI like clean lines as much as dirty ones, though! NO PREFERENCE.
    With a piece of design that's 6" x 4" on the back of a motorbike and that's supposed to communicate a message to the car behind the motorbike, preference doesn't come into it. The difference between clean and not-so-clean is simply the difference between getting the message across and not getting the message across.
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      CommentAuthorstilton
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 29
    Ha. That sounds like a variation of a speech I have to give every few months.
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      CommentAuthorAndrew
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 30
    Hey you guys. I love where this is going.
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      CommentAuthorDor
    • CommentTimeApr 14th 2010
     # 31
    Freesourcing the intarwebs rocks. Keep going!
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 32
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    Hey Ark, howcome your images aren't black?
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 34
    /racist thread
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 35
    Posted By: batterpuntsHey Ark, howcome your images aren't black?

    Could you rephrase that question? It doesn't parse in its current form.
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 36
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      CommentAuthorbatterpunts
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010 edited
     # 37
    The colour that passes for black in the scotmixes you've posted is, in fact, the colour #231f20.

    The drumming bone man is truly black.


    Race condition post

    And that last one is black once more.
  4.  # 38
    Boning up on bones.








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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010 edited
     # 39
    The RGB #231f20 instead of RGB #000000 was some weird artifact of converting Scot's EPS to SVG.
  5.  # 40
    I accept your explanation and feel wiser.
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 41
    yeah I don't know what's up with illustrator, but sometimes it thinks differently that photoshop about the blacks
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      CommentAuthorAndrew
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 42
    Could it be something that happens when it converts subtractive (CMYK) colors to additive (RGB) colors?
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      CommentAuthorAndrew
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 43
    It happens to me a lot when people design web things in Illustrator and I drop those things into Flash.
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      CommentAuthorscot
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 44
    the flash - illustrator highway is so shitty.
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      CommentAuthorAndrew
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 45
    Well, yeah. Those projects run pretty quickly in terms of production, but at the expense of having dozens of folders and files named Clip Group _002 in the library, and never being able to find a movie clip to make revisions.
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 46
    For the record: no Adobe products were involved in the conversion complained of. The EPS to SVG conversion was done in Inkscape on Linux, where I do almost all of my vector work. A corresponding EPS to bitmap conversion using the GIMP resulted in correct RGB #000.

    The red/yellow piece above has the 3:2 aspect ratio required in the final piece. I feel that the division into separate panels for caption and illustration is hard to beat for this particular job, so finishing it off might simply involve the substitution of a very generic skull with something a bit more expressive...
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 15th 2010
     # 47
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    That grey is smdgng things a little, and I hypothesize that the white-on-red text is not going to work in a non-monitor environment do to reduced contrast and sun-blooming.

    Best keep it black on white.

    Posted By: AndrewCould it be something that happens when it converts subtractive (CMYK) colors to additive (RGB) colors?


    If you have a CMYK document, and the option "display Rich Black" is on, then Illustrator will display that shit as black, regardless of whether the coordinate is black in RGB.
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2010
     # 49
    Posted By: batterpuntsI hypothesize that the white-on-red text is not going to work in a non-monitor environment

    You're free to hypothesise all you want. However, there's a reason why the white-on-red in red-top dailies works, monitor environment or non: the colour red packs a huge emotional wallop and draws a lot of attention.

    You weren't going to tell the Swiss that their jolly little flag doesn't work in a non-monitor environment, were you?
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      CommentAuthorArk
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2010
     # 50
    Never mind the colours, though. Here's a suggestion: instead of posting preliminary sketches that might, one day, lead to an entirely new solution to Andrew's design spec, why don't you make a contribution to the design that Scot and I have been bashing back and forth? Such as offering a skull of yours with this iteration? Feel free to reduce it to black and white if you feel it improves the design.